Bombs Away 100k Mining Event discussion

[NEVERDIE]

Hi to all interested parties. We wanted to put together a couple of large scale events that harnessed the economic power of CND. The mining event was to cater to mining Societies, to give them the opportunity to face off for a significant prize. We threw in a little PVP to keep it exciting. Lykke and Viagra Falls did a good amount of research through the first round to figure out how to improve the event in the next round.

However a couple of major problems presented themselves
during the first round that promted me to postpone the 2nd round until further notice.

The First fundemental problem was that despite heavy advertising on EF, the event generated relatively little interest and was operating at a signicant loss that would have only deepened after the second round. Also the upcoming event system had the potential to impact it, so I thought it prudent to wait to see if it could be turned to our advantage

The second problem was the Marketing problem itself.
The wonderful banner Ads on Ef were not enough in themselves to market the event. And the fact that Event topics dont surface on the main page at EF, prevented us from really involving the entire PE community in the excitement of the event.

So .... Where does that leave us now..

We now have an in game Advertising System , which can be utilized to promote a large scale event.

But The event system itself does not aid us in managing this event, therefore it would still be heavily dependent on the forums...

So despite the fact that I would love to see a large scale event like this running at CND, I want to continue to wait for the event system to evolve and offer some Mining tools.

For CC who qualified for the finals, I dont want to leave you in limbo any longer. I would like to award a 2500 PEd Bonus Prize given that the event is effectively terminated. plus of course instant pre-qualification for the finals of any future CND large scale mining event.

I want to leave this thread open for discussion for ideas for a future large scale mining event and for interested parties to make themselves known.

I also encourage people not to lose heart with regard to the CND community and large scale events... We are trying, we have learned, the community is getting stronger, MA is providing incredible tools. We need to be flexible until we find successful formulas, particularly where events are concerned.

[Klod]

Ok good to hear the case is solved. I have had a few thoughts regarding future events and will present them here. Other ppl plz contribute to them since more perspektives make things more clear.

I say keep the ground rules with the global and perhaps take away the pk part, instead of having it over a long time instead do it via the event system with a low sign up cost. Still having it over a long time but instead in perhaps 8 rounds * 1hour per month. It could be done for example one or two domes each time and the society is only allowed to put in one or two miners each time. Pk points are only allowed when a claim is near the one who is getting pk:ed, if now pk is still a option. Hopefully in the coming event there will be resrtictions for ore amps as well. But if not perhaps just have ubers globals as point givers for the event. Instead of getting the ground points from posting screen here at the forum the winners soc could get for a example 15 point and the second 10 and third 5. Most loot from mining that is then. If only for a hour many miners can take the cost of the amps. Perhaps easier to disable ranged and melee weaps then and take out the pk element. Hmm things to think of and I appriciate any suggestions to this event.

Well if some thought are filterd out from my babble one can list the rules like this.

1. Pk is not a element of this event
2. The contest takes part in 8 rounds via the eventsystem. To be able to participate u will have to have pre registerd on this forum and.
3. a max number of participants from each soc is allowed for each round of the event. All registerd will have to do at least one of the rounds if not good reasons are given. Max number of rounds for one avatar to join is 4. This would make the event a team effort.
4. each round generate 30 points for the final contest result and is spread among place 1-3 in the rounds. Bonus points (5?) are given to societys who hit "real" globals based counting on the most efficiant amps. For example over 600 ped if now the 106 amps doesnt make a sizable over that, hmm dont have the numbers for that but easy to find out.
5. The winner when points of the 8 rounds i calculated have a place in the final, perhaps even have symbolic prices for the 2 and 3 place. theese peds are to be taken from the 1 ranked soc price so not the economy of the event is damaged.
6. This could keep going until the end of the year and then have a final.

Well this is only thoughts so pls discuss and come with further ideas

[Kimmi]

I dont know the details on this event other then it was a 100k price event.
So question: This event didnt payoff, so you just stoped it, and gave 2500ped to winning soc ??

[Klod]

Hmm I can fill in with some info on why it went like it did.
The event didnt draw that much attention as guessed thats true. Also the mining amps (when they arrived) kinda wrecked the basics of the event wich was that a global is not that common and require some hard work and luck to get. The coming event system when this event was postponed also gave a more promising future. Now we are there, not knowing what to do and ND has provided us with a awnser on our questions. I also added some thoughts above. Hmm and the Winning soc of that first round recieved 10k and this 2,5k + a final spot in coming event is a symbolic gift cause we lost the opportunity to compete in the final.

[Ace]

I Agree with Klod ............

[Epictetus]

Good point Klod. It seems like if you take the highest decay limited ore finder and attach the highest decay amp, it's not that hard to get a global.

And the addition of PK just made the people who don't have full shadow, mod fap, and mod merc feel like they shouldn't even try the event.

[psychnosiz]

Mostly right, and you're still missing some points.

1. Some people blast away some few 100(0?) bombs/day globalling every 2 hours. This gives ordinary miners only a VERY slight chance of being able to compete.

2. The Mining itself can only be done by people with severe armor/weapons as most domes the mobs are too heavy for "loose bombing" and any mediocre player is spending more peds on fighting then mining. This decreases the chance to streakglobal with about 5-10 domes atleast.

3. Most avatars don't have (or can't afford yet) an appartment up in space what makes that "non-residents" are fully loaded after a few deps and either need to spend time trading or going back down to storage. In this timeframe a resident can global a few times more (which is important in a comp).

Don't get me wrong though, I love events - but after trying to participate in previous ones, I have noticed my attempts are rather pathetic and it's the opposite of profitable on my PEDcard.

I find that if events are organised (not for the LAVF alike chess' games etc) they should bear the skills of the avatars in mind and make similar competitions (agility class 30-40; strength class 60-70).Also because nothing of the "skill" system has been proven yet and imo better skilled have better loot ...

You can calculate as much as you want for prices but the most important thing is to make sure as much people as possible can compete with even chances. That'll be the best marketing you can have

[NEVERDIE]

Hopefully the event system in future will allow us to set avatar skill levels.

[Francine]

1) figure out how mining works on CND .....
Then adapt the system to an attractive competition...
Lets say hypothetically that mining in CND is random and each dome got its bombpool ....
Lets say that mobs bother very much miners when they are mining ...And that miners dont like to spend money in ammos when they mine ...
Lets say that there is a hidden pyroman in each miner and miners love explosions .....

Lets say that CND can control the amount of mobs in each dome....

Then count 3..2..1...0! and unleash 50 jumping miners in 4 safe mobless domes and let them explode anything around ...Most loot in 1 hour or 2 wins.
?
lol

Of course , you hired your friends crafters to just wait the end of competition and buy all the ores for low price

[Epictetus]

Originally Posted by NEVERDIE

Hopefully the event system in future will allow us to set avatar skill levels.

Agreed, something like HP or Agility would be nice.